- Litvinenko poisoning - Annexation of Crimea - War in Donbass - The downing of the Malaysian Boeing - Chemical attacks in Syria - Elections hacking - Novichok poisoning
It's quite possible that supporting Yeltsin in 1996 was foolish, but there's no evidence that the support made the relationship worse. As you've said, "the civilized world (quote the phrase or not) would accept any Russian administration as long as it doesn't play hammer and sickle."
Moreover, after Putin called Bush on 9/11 and the famous "looked into his eyes" the relationship reached its peak. Russia even didn't veto the UN Resolution on Iraq.
but there's no evidence that the support made the relationship worse.
The PoV I am outlining here is that the relationships could have been better without a Putin, and the actual Putin was (to an extent) a product of giving Yeltsin's administration a free pass. I am not considering Putin an independent parameter here.
(Actually, under the assumption of (a; any) Putin in the Kremlin, the conclusion would be trivially true because the "no Putin" precondition would be trivially false. But that's not the essence of what I meant.)
This is a hypothetical. Maybe there exists an alternative universe where due to a Communist victory in Russia in 1996 the relationships between Russia and the US are better than in the present universe. I have no access to that universe. More importantly, the person whose twit we are discussing doesn't have any problem with the universe where Putin is in charge of Russia. In this context, a discussion about what if Putin was not in power in Russia in the alternative universe sounds irrelevant to me.
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Date: 2018-07-17 09:08 am (UTC)Moreover, after Putin called Bush on 9/11 and the famous "looked into his eyes" the relationship reached its peak. Russia even didn't veto the UN Resolution on Iraq.
It went downhill somewhere around 2007
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93United_States_relations#Controversy_over_U.S._plan_to_station_missiles_in_Poland
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Date: 2018-07-17 10:56 am (UTC)The PoV I am outlining here is that the relationships could have been better without a Putin, and the actual Putin was (to an extent) a product of giving Yeltsin's administration a free pass. I am not considering Putin an independent parameter here.
(Actually, under the assumption of (a; any) Putin in the Kremlin, the conclusion would be trivially true because the "no Putin" precondition would be trivially false. But that's not the essence of what I meant.)
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Date: 2018-07-17 05:43 pm (UTC)